Wing Training 11/02/16

ARC's regular wing training sessions are discussed here.

Focus of Wing Training 11/02/16

Poll ended at Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:08 pm

CZ & SOP practice
0
No votes
RES & SOP practice
2
40%
Wing basics
1
20%
ARC faction operations
0
No votes
Astrobatics / Formation Flying
1
20%
Level Playing Field combat training
0
No votes
Escort/Protection exercise
1
20%
Interdiction training
0
No votes
Ground training (Horizons required)
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 5
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Wing Training 11/02/16

Postby Sealurk » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:08 pm

Hope you all enjoyed the last wing training session, sorry I couldn't make it. As usual pick up to three activities you'd like to see wing training focus on this Thursday, and don't forget you can change your vote.
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Re: Wing Training 11/02/16

Postby Frank » Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:19 pm

Are you going to manage next Thursday's Training? I was a lot of fun.

What's interdiction training? I'm hoping it's the way around that I imagine. I've got a serious problem getting to a wingmate when they've been successfully interdicted. This is a skill I must really sharpen up if we ever work as escorts.
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Re: Wing Training 11/02/16

Postby Sealurk » Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:32 pm

I should be able to make it next Thursday, will know closer to the time.

Interdiction training could be anything that involves interdiction - how to avoid them, how to help a wingmate, how to carry them out against wanted targets in supercruise. Useful for undermining and bounty hunting outside of a RES, such as the current BH Community Goal in LHS 2936.
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Re: Wing Training 11/02/16

Postby Dayrth » Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:37 am

Yesterday was good fun. I think this training is paying off. Many actions in a wing of 4 and I didn't collide with anyone all evening :D The most impressive bit I thought was our 4 stock Sidewinders dropping the shields of a PLAYER Anaconda. (Of course he blew us all to crap in the next round, but I like to gloss over that bit) .

Frank. I have a cheap (about £3 from ebay) usb numeric key pad next to my stick. I have it set up to do various things like switch between different power distributions and request docking (using voice attack), but the most useful thing is having 5 keys for:
Select wingman 1
Select wingman 2
Select wingman 3
Select wingman's target
Nav lock on wingman

When a wingman gets interdicted or is interdicting I hit the select wingman whatever and then hit nav lock. I am then locked on and will drop out as soon as he does as long as I am close enough. If I'm not close enough then his wake will automatically be targeted and all I have to do is fly toward it and I will automatically drop as soon as I get close enough. Once dropped I press select wingman whatever again and then select wingman's target.
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Re: Wing Training 11/02/16

Postby Frank » Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:38 am

I'm not plugging any other USB controllers into my computer. The foot pedals I'm using just now are starting to resemble a church organ. You may have noticed during wing training I was hitting the wrong foot switch and you were getting an earful of me yelling at my computer to get the hell out of there when my shields dropped <grin> I do need to follow your method though. I'll set up voice attack commands and try it out for the next wing training.

I take it that this method only works if the targeted wingman has set their beacon? I'd also like to practice interdictions where the beacon hasn't been set and you've got to crawl down the low wake. I'm hoping in the future that the ARC may help escorting merchant ships, and they may forget to set their beacon, or if they're under fire how to set it.

I've also voted for formation flying training. I find it difficult to keep the nav-lock square blue when we are in supercruise.
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Re: Wing Training 11/02/16

Postby Sealurk » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:14 am

I don't think the beacon matters in this instance, only nav-lock. The beacon is so that commanders can find each other when one is in supercruise and the other normal space, as far as I'm aware anyway.

If you are nav-locked onto a commander and close enough, if they get interdicted and dragged down, you should follow them automatically within a few seconds. If you are NOT close enough, I believe you simply have to get close enough and it happens automatically. If you are NOT nav-locked, you have to manually lock on to the low wake and drop down as you normally would. This is why nav-lock and close formation flying is so useful, at least as far as I remember.

Luftal, Kempinski and I found out a few things when we did our trading run a while back since we had one or two interdictions and were jumping as a wing to different systems, trying to work out what factors affect nav-lock. We suspect relative speed plays as much a part as distance, if not a greater part.
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Re: Wing Training 11/02/16

Postby Dayrth » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:58 am

Sealurk wrote:I don't think the beacon matters in this instance, only nav-lock. The beacon is so that commanders can find each other when one is in supercruise and the other normal space, as far as I'm aware anyway.


Yes, I think this is the case.
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Re: Wing Training 11/02/16

Postby Luftal » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:12 pm

I can't make it this week wing training. :(
But next week I probably will be there.
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Re: Wing Training 11/02/16

Postby Dayrth » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:51 pm

No problem :)
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Re: Wing Training 11/02/16

Postby Dayrth » Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:53 am

Last night, winged up with Sealurk for the CG and we hit a haz res. Another thing I hit quite often was Sealurk :( but after a while we worked out a strategy that avoided collisions. One person is wing leader who engages targets. The other is wingman who hangs back, staying 1-2 km from the target. This enables the wingman to engage the target while keeping the leader in sight all the time. Not only does this avoid collisions, but if the leader is attacked by another ship the wingman can engage that one. This happened a couple of time yesterday. It was a very effective strategy. Not sure how it would work with a wing of four though. May need to split in to two teams of two. Thought it would be a useful thing to practice today. What say you all?
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